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  Found some older WTS publications!

  by cyberdyne systems 101 in

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  i was going through some old boxes in my attic and found some older wts publications, mainly spanning late 60's to 90's, but among those was a couple from the 40's and 50's, but the real scoop was the book 'riches' by none other than jf rutherford!

  i'm hoping to witness first hand some of the witnesses flip flops on doctrine.. does anyone know if there is anything significant in this book that i should look out for when reading it?.

  arnie

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  Just found a section dealing with 'the higher powers' of Romans 13:1-3, saying they are Jehovah God and Jesus
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  Found some older WTS publications!

  by cyberdyne systems 101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was going through some old boxes in my attic and found some older wts publications, mainly spanning late 60's to 90's, but among those was a couple from the 40's and 50's, but the real scoop was the book 'riches' by none other than jf rutherford!

  i'm hoping to witness first hand some of the witnesses flip flops on doctrine.. does anyone know if there is anything significant in this book that i should look out for when reading it?.

  arnie

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  Elsewhere, very interesting to look at the scans, i shall certainly look out for that issue. One nugget I have come across already by speed reading is the date of 606 B.C.
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  Found some older WTS publications!

  by cyberdyne systems 101 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was going through some old boxes in my attic and found some older wts publications, mainly spanning late 60's to 90's, but among those was a couple from the 40's and 50's, but the real scoop was the book 'riches' by none other than jf rutherford!

  i'm hoping to witness first hand some of the witnesses flip flops on doctrine.. does anyone know if there is anything significant in this book that i should look out for when reading it?.

  arnie

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  I was going through some old boxes in my attic and found some older WTS publications, mainly spanning late 60's to 90's, but among those was a couple from the 40's and 50's, but the real scoop was the book 'Riches' by none other than JF Rutherford! I'm hoping to witness first hand some of the Witnesses flip flops on doctrine.

  Does anyone know if there is anything significant in this book that I should look out for when reading it?

  Arnie
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  Did Anyone Try to Warn You About the WTS?

  by tmo1965 in

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  2. bible

  did anyone try to warn you about the wts before you saw the light?

  how did you react to the info?

  did you resent the person / people who told you?

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  
  The first time I heard something that could have been a chance to learn the truth was when a teacher asked me when the Witnesses started. I replied (what an idiot I was) that we had been around since the 1st century christians. I had reasoned in my mind that we were true christians and that the parable of the wheat and weeds meant that from the 1st century down to the late 70's (this was when she asked me) there had always been such true christians. She later showed me a book showing that CT Russell formed the bible students which became JW's. I was shocked but just left it there and didnt pursue it

  Much later on I looked back and realised there was no such 'connection' between CT Russell and other annointed followers of Christ. He basically just appeared and using some doctrine's we now know he borrowed started a new faith. I only recalled her question as I was contemplating all the lies I had been told.
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  beards not a rule but!!!

  by frogit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4666132.stm .

  this caught my eyes and reminded me when as a ministerial servant that we had to go into the back room for instructions from the po (not very clever man), he tried his best to explain to us ms and elders about the wearing of beards in the congregation.

  he must have gone on and on for 30 minutes about not having beards, but kept impressing that this was not a rule, but beards should not be worn, but its not a rule, just dont expect to have any privileges if you grow one on your face and wear it (sounds like you wear it like a tie he he) but we are not making it a rule, just dont wear a beard.

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  Its winter here in the UK. So I have a beard right now.
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  Will DA'ing myself be better for my children's future?

  by indoubt in

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  i have been fading away, and considered fully "inactive" for over 2 years now.

  my wife is still a very active jw, and she brings my 2 children (5 & 3) to the meetings and service on a regular basis.

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  My own situation is that I am D'fd and separated from my wife. I basically talk to my children about the Bible, using that as a more neutral view point. I have read scriptures such as Heb 11 and where at verse 16 it says a place in Heaven, and I ask what they think it means. Of course it looks like these faithful ones are going to Heaven not the Earth as per WTS teachings. This way they can see there is 'interpretation' , there are many verses I simply never saw as a Witness that I have now that I read it without their bias. Do it gently and kindly show them there are different alternatives, something I was isolated from growing up as a witness myself.
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  Need advise...conditional love and it's coverup

  by alamb in

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  someone give me the words.. .

  my brother's wife recently had a baby.

  she was df'd shortly before their marriage but is attending meetings.

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  Do you have Citizens Advice in Scotland? They maybe able to give advice or find an agency that can help. Sorry to hear your going through such a difficult time, take care

  Arnie
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  Can you celebrate your 100th birthday when you are a JW?

  by blondie in

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  2. friends

  as a devout jehovah's witness, mrs. merle is prohibited from celebrating her birthday.

  but a week from tomorrow, relatives and friends will flock to the camoset village country living mobile home park in johnstown to attend a super bowl party that just happens to feature ice cream and cake.. "that's why we're calling it a super bowl party," explained her son bob merle, 73, who lives just five trailers down the road.

  "we don't celebrate birthdays, but we have to celebrate 100 years," said mrs. mechem, 78.

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  The bottom line for me is where are the Witnesses 'Bible trained conscience(s)'? This is not the Christian freedom spoken of by Paul and other NT writers. They load their oppinions - yes oppinions, on their fellow Christians and weigh them down like the Pharises did in Jesus day. Will they not be judged by Jesus as an individual? Or will the Govening body be present with each witness before Jesus? Its so madening and its making me fume!!
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  Beginning the road out.

  by wozadummy in

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  yes i'm new to this forum and i have been searching the net and reading with interest peoples comments here and on other sites.

  as most know reaching out as a faithfull jw to others outside of the congregation is difficult at first ,as i guess we think anyone outside the congregation is wordly etc.

  and we can't open up easily to "strangers" as jehovah would not approve.

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  Welcome here from me too , It is so true that with blanket statements all non JW's are 'worldly' and are to be feared. You have already realised this is not true and just as 'in' the organisation you will find loving and wicked people, its true for everyone else. It just takes time for the indoctrination to fade, maybe not all of it will, but it wont become such a problem to any of us as time goes by. I think the biggest thing is not taking in any more of the propagander the society uses to reinforce its belief structure on its members, in fact that is why so much emphasis is placed on doing 'theocratic' pursuits (things not required or mentioned in the Bible). If you stop taking it in, your mind returns slowly to its normal state where thinking and reasoning can prevail again.
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  Are Jw's spiritually or physically minded people?

  by Honesty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since 99.9% of all jw's do not claim to have the holy spirit within them in what ways can they be spiritual people?.

  a examination of 1 cor 2:10-15 raises some questions about jwism:.

  1 cor 2:10-15 now god has revealed them to us by the spirit, for the spirit searches everything, even the deep things of god.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  The funny thing is that being physical and not spritual (i.e. not annointed) none of the NT applies - and how can it? When it talks about being free of law and desires of flesh, yes if you are spiritual and of heavenly hope your old life dies, your physical one ends, yet this can't be true of those who are not annointed as per WT teaching. Therefore how can we display fruitage of that spirit, we would still be under law - whether as a Jew (The Law) or Gentile (law in hearts), it is so crazy how this has been twisted by the WT. Anyone who reads Roman's for example can see to even be Christian we need faith in Jesus death and would therefore be one of God's sons by means of his spirit. Where does it say about non annointed Christians? Where? If the vast majority would be non annointed how come there is no mention of them?